The never-ending battle against woke Hollywood and SJW infused entertainment media [trigger warning]

welp R.I.P lord of the rings the rings of power.
we have an elf


a Dwarf Queen


Isulduers sister



Elrond and Galadriel (to be clear Elrond was already married with kids at this point in the story)


and a new Elf Human romance. spicy!


what ever hope i had for this evaporated. oh well, lets hope this crashes hard enough that we can use it as yet another arrow in our quiver of DON'T DO THIS HOLLYWOOD!

 

At the end of the day, this simply isn't Lord of the Rings. LOTR is and forever will be the work of J.R.R. Tolkien. It is the world and characters that he created. This is not his work. This isn't even trying to due justice to the work whose name it tries to profit off of. They can buy the rights to the LOTR property and stamp the LOTR name on it, but that doesn't make it real LOTR. Just like the ST isn't real Star Wars.

The LOTR trilogy was a masterpiece. Faithful in every way to the source material. The Hobbit trilogy was a cash grab and was a significant drop in quality as compared to the LOTR trilogy that came before it. It was simply stretched out too thin and loaded with filler. This new Amazon series however will be a complete bastardization of Tolkien's work. Your goal is either story telling or political propaganda... they have chosen the later.

 

on top of that it just looks really really bad/cheap. the wooden breastplate looks like foam board. why is the "dwarf" wearing a muslin night gown in the mountains? why does she look nothing like a dwarf(where is the beard amazon!)? why does she have finger paint on her hands? what the #$%@ is wrong with Elronds hair?!? this version makes Hugo weaving look good.

 

Anyone else see the resemblance to Don Lemon?

 

well @#$%

 

lol no it fucking wasn't. aragorn's reluctant king bullshit in the movies is a completely modern, hollywood trope that didn't exist in the books at all.

It's okay to modernize something as long as it doesnt involve making black dwarves. Dont worry, i can read between the lines hahahaha.

 

You'd be hard pressed to name many examples of big movies that were more faithful to their source material.

 

Just going off what you said my dude. "faithful in every way to the source material."

I think presenting that argument, while also railing against the "woke" nature of the new show (i can assume because the 'wokeness' isn't faithful to the source material) comes across a little hypocritical.

 

I cannot think of one offhand that beats the adaptation of LotR. Not even close.

 

no country for old men.

Maybe not beats, but dialogue is literally ripped word for word from the book.

I dont think lotr is an unfaithful (or bad) adaption. I just dont think its "faithful in every way" because its just straight up not. There's nothing wrong with that, but its not. IMO messing with the motivations of one of the most pivotal characters in the story is a pretty massive modernization of the source material.

Which begs the question of why is this type of modernization okay but others arent? People draw their line at different places, i'd just be curious what personal opinions are the driving force behind where anyone happens to draw that line.

 

LOTR is celebrated for that very reason; I'm not presenting a fringe theory here. Is your issue with the wording "every way"? I think the argument I presented was pretty easy to follow and understand. Especially as...

But if you're so adamantly against my argument, rather than labelling it as hypocritical, why don't you back up your claim...

There may be a few, no doubt, but name me ten major movies that have done a better job at being faithful to the novel from which they were adapted. You've named No Country for Old Men, that leaves you with 9.

Or if that doesn't fit your fancy, do a little bit of Google work and you'll see that LOTR is consistently credited with being an exceptionally faithful telling of the story created by Tolkien.

 

Fucking what? I have 0 problems with the LOTR adaption. Zero. Not a single one. You said it was faithful in every way. Its not. It fundamentally changes the motivations of one of the main characters and their journey. That's a massive, massive modernization that was specifically used to appeal to modern hollywood audiences.

I have 0 problem with that. You seem to have a problem with adaptions modernizing the source material (hence this whole garbage heap of a thread)... except when you dont. So that, naturally, raises questions as to where and why you draw the line you do.

"name me 10 movies" as if that has literally anything to do with anything i said.

edit: just to be clear, this was my claim in little words. LOTR is not faithful in literally "every way" and used smart modernizations to create a wonderful series of movies.

I never once stated any problem with LOTR or modernizing source material. Project more dude.

Final edit: the biggest problem with modern hollywood entertainment is shitty writing and the idea that anything, "woke" themes, big name actors, anything, will make up for shitty, vapid, brain dead writing.

the new lotr show will be good or bad because of its writing. it could be the most faithful adaption on the planet. Every dwarf could be a little white bearded furball and it would still suck ass if the writing blows.