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The Shrine to Lost Armies

Zen Shrugs said:
Be careful mate. You buy one old White Dwarf and before you know it you'll have a whole shelf. Happened to me. Ahem. :oops:

#206 also includes some of the colour pages from the army book, plus info on the 'Dark Conspiracy' worldwide campaign (about Antoch). Oddly enough it doesn't feature Lizzies in the battle report even though it's the month their army book was released.

Personally I consider the heyday of GW-only White Dwarf to start at issue #218 and continue through to the early 300s (more or less coinciding with the editorship of Paul Sawyer, aka 'Fat Bloke'). #206 isn't up to that standard, but still a decent read.

EDIT: Whoops, wasn't paying attention to the pages of the thread and missed all the intervening conversation! Double ahem.
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That being said, anyone remember the warhammer warband rules they put in white dwarf? Those were fun.
 
Zen Shrugs said:
Be careful mate. You buy one old White Dwarf and before you know it you'll have a whole shelf. Happened to me. Ahem. :oops:

#206 also includes some of the colour pages from the army book, plus info on the 'Dark Conspiracy' worldwide campaign (about Antoch). Oddly enough it doesn't feature Lizzies in the battle report even though it's the month their army book was released.

Personally I consider the heyday of GW-only White Dwarf to start at issue #218 and continue through to the early 300s (more or less coinciding with the editorship of Paul Sawyer, aka 'Fat Bloke'). #206 isn't up to that standard, but still a decent read.

EDIT: Whoops, wasn't paying attention to the pages of the thread and missed all the intervening conversation! Double ahem.
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I might consider it, but for now I am good I think. Too many other projects already in the queue.

Lord-Marcus said:
That being said, anyone remember the warhammer warband rules they put in white dwarf? Those were fun.
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I do actually, I had a pdf version several years ago. We tried playing a few games, now that I look back on it the rules reminded me a bit of a Mordheim campaign, just set specifically for all the warhammer armies that were present at the time.
 
Killer Angel said:
Want to see something really crazy? ...and it's about an almost "lost army" (dwarfs)

here you are. This project is literally taking years.

If this isn't true passion and love, I don't know what is.
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This is ridiculous! I'm only 13 pages in!
 
Killer Angel said:
Want to see something really crazy? ...and it's about an almost "lost army" (dwarfs)

here you are. This project is literally taking years.

If this isn't true passion and love, I don't know what is.
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Dwarfs aren’t a lost army - Three Reasons:

1. Fyreslayers
2. Kharadron Overlords
3. Dispossessed + Ironweld Arsenal (Original Dwarfs)

Grimnir is not impressed with you!

Otherwise, that is an amazing piece. I certainly couldn’t do that. I don’t know where to get such resources for a start...
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Dwarfs aren’t a lost army - Three Reasons:

1. Fyreslayers
2. Kharadron Overlords
3. Dispossessed + Ironweld Arsenal (Original Dwarfs)

Grimnir is not impressed with you!

Otherwise, that is an amazing piece. I certainly couldn’t do that. I don’t know where to get such resources for a start...
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Your wallet, home depot, artstation, Pinterest, and a bitz site
 
Killer Angel said:
That's true to a certain point, but a good half of the old dwarfs models have been discontinued :(
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I feel like I have to spend more time on Ebay collecting older models then I do getting stuff at GW, these days. I have far to many metal lizards. On another note, might be getting issue #206 at some point in the (Relatively) near future, since it seems to be in a white dwarf lot I was planning on acquiring either way. Have way to many old issues of white dwarf sitting on my shelf these days. Once I get this lot, I'll have more then 60 of the damned things, probably closer to 70. I'm of half a mind to start some sort of blog to peruse them with you all, though I feel like some of the oldest of the bunch (7, 8, and 9, probably any under 30 I'd imagine) aren't terribly relevant to Warhammer.
 
Killer Angel said:
Want to see something really crazy? ...and it's about an almost "lost army" (dwarfs)

here you are. This project is literally taking years.

If this isn't true passion and love, I don't know what is.
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Ritual said:
This is ridiculous! I'm only 13 pages in!
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That is awesome :wideyed:

Imagine making a Lizardmen temple with a setup like that. Multiple levels of rooms, spawning pools, etc. Or even cutting the whole thing in half and having it open like a book.

Epic post, thanks for sharing @Killer Angel
 
Warden said:
That is awesome :wideyed:

Imagine making a Lizardmen temple with a setup like that. Multiple levels of rooms, spawning pools, etc. Or even cutting the whole thing in half and having it open like a book.

Epic post, thanks for sharing @Killer Angel
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Just you watch, now someone's going to try and build themselves a big temple pyramid, filled with all manner of engravings and architecture and what-have-you.
 
Killer Angel said:
That's true to a certain point, but a good half of the old dwarfs models have been discontinued :(
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What about the new Longbeards, Hammerers, Ironbreakers and Irondrakes? They look very nice models. And not to mention the Gyrobomber. I’ve made one of those and it looks really nice, more ‘Dwarfy’ than the previous Gyrocopter.
 
What are the weaknesses of tomb kings as a faction in the lore meta
 
In the lore? Well, they're less disposable then, say the Vampire Counts. There ARE a lot of them, but they're still rather limited in number compared with the vampire counts, who can raise entire armies of new troops after a large conflict.
 
I'm trying to figure out why the death community at large dislikes thrm
 
Lord-Marcus said:
What are the weaknesses of tomb kings as a faction in the lore meta
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In terms of lore they are very much a niche army. I wouldn't say they are hated, but Vampires have always been more popular (which is the same thing you see outside of wargaming as well).

@TheSkeptic 's analysis is correct, Vampires have access to unlimited undead troops because they can raise anyone. Tomb Kings raise the souls of their past warriors. So while this makes TK undead superior to their Vampire counterparts (as seen by their ability to use bows and chariots), their number is ultimately finite.

In regards to meta, namely WFB meta, they are a very weak faction overall. Definitely in the bottom tier in terms of power level. Sadly it is Tomb Kings, Bretonnia and Beastmen bringing up the rear.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
In terms of lore they are very much a niche army. I wouldn't say they are hated, but Vampires have always been more popular (which is the same thing you see outside of wargaming as well).

@TheSkeptic 's analysis is correct, Vampires have access to unlimited undead troops because they can raise anyone. Tomb Kings raise the souls of their past warriors. So while this makes TK undead superior to their Vampire counterparts (as seen by their ability to use bows and chariots), their number is ultimately finite.

In regards to meta, namely WFB meta, they are a very weak faction overall. Definitely in the bottom tier in terms of power level. Sadly it is Tomb Kings, Bretonnia and Beastmen bringing up the rear.
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I just see a lot of "I'm glad thier not coming back. Muh vampirez iz superiors" from Grand alliance death players
 
Lord-Marcus said:
I'm trying to figure out why the death community at large dislikes thrm
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The death community, in my personal opinion at least, doesn't really dislike them, it's just that, in the days of Fantasy, they weren't really willing to hamstring themselves by building an army for a terrible army. As Nightbringer said, they were firmly bottom tier for almost the entirety of their run in Fantasy, and as such people who like the undead much preferred to run the Vampire Counts, who were firmly middle and top tier for most of their run, even if they preferred the aesthetics of the Tomb Kings. Only the people who REALLY liked the Tomb Kings aesthetic and fluff were willing to build up an army of them.
 
TheSkeptic said:
The death community, in my personal opinion at least, doesn't really dislike them, it's just that, in the days of Fantasy, they weren't really willing to hamstring themselves by building an army for a terrible army. As Nightbringer said, they were firmly bottom tier for almost the entirety of their run in Fantasy, and as such people who like the undead much preferred to run the Vampire Counts, who were firmly middle and top tier for most of their run, even if they preferred the aesthetics of the Tomb Kings. Only the people who REALLY liked the Tomb Kings aesthetic and fluff were willing to build up an army of them.
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Must be why I lost so many tournament games
 
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