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AoS What wacky new stuff could they add to seraphon?

Lord-Marcus said:
I just there were more dogs of war units.

Some of the models we're fun. Like the cursed company
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Yeah, they were quite fun rules wise, but it was also nice to read about their backgrounds. Added some nice flavour to Fantasy, which we don't see a lot of now.
 
TheSkeptic said:
Yeah, they were quite fun rules wise, but it was also nice to read about their backgrounds. Added some nice flavour to Fantasy, which we don't see a lot of now.
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Correct. It feels like we are lacking the spice
 
I would like to see new kits for the saurus warriors to bring rhem up to date. Rules wise i think theyre fine, maybe 2hweapons would be cool, like 2x10 sw.

Temple guard with 2 wounds or some way to negate MW for them when near a hero/slann, if the enemy has MW they're screwed all over way too hard.

And also the knights, i hate the whole kit, it's awefull, they could bring them inline with the total war 2 knights, and be a dual kit with the even more elite cavalry in the horned ones.

Loved those models in game, they would be a ton of fun to paint and model.

Then new kroxigors, and Nakai/kroxigor hero, with a batallion using skinks, and plastic razordons/salamanders.

That's all i would want, maybe the revivification crystal rule for for the bastilodon. But besides that, i think we're fine actually on models and diversity, SCE have just too many of the same thing slightly different, and i feel no envy to their range. Only for the flying guys with hammers, those are sick cool.
 
Kor`Torak said:
But besides that, i think we're fine actually on models and diversity, SCE have just too many of the same thing slightly different, and i feel no envy to their range. Only for the flying guys with hammers, those are sick cool.
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Our diversity is mostly fine yea, the only thing we're "missing" in terms of units are effective non-horde general purpose infantry and the ability to field our big dinosaurs without immeadiatly running into behemoth limits. Would love to see several tiers of stegadons for us to field like in the TW game with "young" stegadons/bastilidons/carnosaurs resembling the SCE dracoth units and "ancient" ones would be what we currently already have. It would make for a cool army.

What we need fixed most though is just the general flaws in our rules; summoning, rule of one, lack of a spell-lore and prayers, the dependency on synergy, and difficulty in maintaining it, etc. Proper new units aren't that needed.
 
Kor`Torak said:
I would like to see new kits for the saurus warriors to bring rhem up to date. Rules wise i think theyre fine, maybe 2hweapons would be cool, like 2x10 sw.

Temple guard with 2 wounds or some way to negate MW for them when near a hero/slann, if the enemy has MW they're screwed all over way too hard.

And also the knights, i hate the whole kit, it's awefull, they could bring them inline with the total war 2 knights, and be a dual kit with the even more elite cavalry in the horned ones.

Loved those models in game, they would be a ton of fun to paint and model.

Then new kroxigors, and Nakai/kroxigor hero, with a batallion using skinks, and plastic razordons/salamanders.

That's all i would want, maybe the revivification crystal rule for for the bastilodon. But besides that, i think we're fine actually on models and diversity, SCE have just too many of the same thing slightly different, and i feel no envy to their range. Only for the flying guys with hammers, those are sick cool.
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I agree,the cold one cav need a revamp to be in line with the modern interpretation of cold ones (see - dark elf knights)
 
Canas said:
Our diversity is mostly fine yea, the only thing we're "missing" in terms of units are effective non-horde general purpose infantry and the ability to field our big dinosaurs without immeadiatly running into behemoth limits. Would love to see several tiers of stegadons for us to field like in the TW game with "young" stegadons/bastilidons/carnosaurs resembling the SCE dracoth units and "ancient" ones would be what we currently already have. It would make for a cool army.

What we need fixed most though is just the general flaws in our rules; summoning, rule of one, lack of a spell-lore and prayers, the dependency on synergy, and difficulty in maintaining it, etc. Proper new units aren't that needed.
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We solve the problem with hordes using more kroxigors if they become viable, or as i said, with 2hw saurus that attack multiple targets.

Salamanders hitting every model in the 8-12" range instead of a single shot with multiple damage, would be awesome too, just like a true flamer is supposed to be, this way we can place them behind our saurus lines and scorch everything in sight to ashes, and handlers would be usefull thanks to the increased range.

Feral stegadon, basti, carno or trog would be cool just for points reduction.
 
Kor`Torak said:
We solve the problem with hordes using more kroxigors if they become viable, or as i said, with 2hw saurus that attack multiple targets.

Salamanders hitting every model in the 8-12" range instead of a single shot with multiple damage, would be awesome too, just like a true flamer is supposed to be, this way we can place them behind our saurus lines and scorch everything in sight to ashes, and handlers would be usefull thanks to the increased range.

Feral stegadon, basti, carno or trog would be cool just for points reduction.
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I meant having an effective infantry unit that isn't a horde unit. Skinks and saurus warriors are both only really effective as a horde (yea yea, 10 skinks are "good" thanks to wary fighter, they're still only good at running away). Not an anti-horde unit like Kroxigors.

Feral stegadon and such would be cool not just for the point reduction but even just to be able to field a bunch of dinosaurs. Right now the costs and behemoth restrictions limit it to a handfull of big dinosaurs. It's not cool :(
 
Lord-Marcus said:
Warriors aren't good in small units?
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Not particularly. Without their horde bonuses they just don't have particularly good stats and are only really interesting in so much that they're a bunch of bodies to put in your enemies way. Only exception is in a sunclaw starhost, it pushes their stats just far enough to make em somewhat decent, even in a small unit. Though they're still mediocre at best.
 
Canas said:
Not particularly. Without their horde bonuses they just don't have particularly good stats and are only really interesting in so much that they're a bunch of bodies to put in your enemies way. Only exception is in a sunclaw starhost, it pushes their stats just far enough to make em somewhat decent, even in a small unit. Though they're still mediocre at best.
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I guess the old ones didn't craft the ultimate fighting machine
 
Lord-Marcus said:
I guess the old ones didn't craft the ultimate fighting machine
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Typical of GW. Write fluff about how amazing something is and then give it crappy rules. Watch as sales for that model perform poorly, assume it’s not popular, and then proceed to ignore it for years. Claim to write lore based rules to the masses when they complain about how the rules don’t match the lore, then drive up the price of the models before better rules are released.
 
Jason839 said:
Typical of GW. Write fluff about how amazing something is and then give it crappy rules. Watch as sales for that model perform poorly, assume it’s not popular, and then proceed to ignore it for years. Claim to write lore based rules to the masses when they complain about how the rules don’t match the lore, then drive up the price of the models before better rules are released.
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Well, our start collecting is awesome value, and I'm sure hordes of saurus can result.
 
Yes it is. :) I have 90 Saurus Warriors but I want to go up to 120 before I tried going for horde army.
 
I saw all the dragon stuff but think about it, giant, frickin Quetzalcoatlus like not even a quetzal bird type thing but the giant pterosaur having that as a giant flying bomber thing

intensely impractical but I enjoy thinking of skinks manning the back of one of those things like an airship crew
 
Hyperborean said:
I saw all the dragon stuff but think about it, giant, frickin Quetzalcoatlus like not even a quetzal bird type thing but the giant pterosaur having that as a giant flying bomber thing

intensely impractical but I enjoy thinking of skinks manning the back of one of those things like an airship crew
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Ok that sounds awesome...
 
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