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Tutorial Writers' Wretreat or Crytics' Crypt? (love needed)

Scalenex said:
I hadn't considered that he didn't want to finish the series. In interviews he certainly lights up whenever someone asks him about any of the non-GoT stuff he wrote. He wants to move on, but it's likely if he published too much else his fans will turn on him.
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Yeah, what I'm meaning is: the first three books were a blast, and were pubished in a short amount of time.
You can see clearly the passion of the writer for the work he's doing.
In the following books, the passion was constantly diminishing. When you love to do something, when you have ideas, nothing stops you to put them in practice…. yeah, you can be distracted by other things or duties, but you won't postpone them for years. If you do, deep inside you are no more interested in them. And forced thing are forced, there's a limit to the amount of stuff you can be forced to do, especially if you're a rich, old man.
 
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Inspiration for a short story :'D
 
Intwidumalah said:
I think that he probably started to doubt the conclusion for his story would live up to the premise he had created.

I think that he basically removed all the fantasy elements, and was left with a medieval soap opera. Then he realised he screwed up and had to add dragons in anyway.

He also said he was trying to write, non obviously bad or good characters. But all his characters are easy to define as good or evil.

I think what happened was, he got to the point where he realised, he spent years on years, trying to write his books to avoid tropes and cliches, and at the end, he still had them all anyway.

Thats not to say they are not good. Obviously they are good because everybody like them.

But George Matin is trying to live up to the greatest writers of all time. Which would make sense to not finish his saga, as then no one will ever be able to judge it as a completed work. Only of what could have been.

The best fantasy books imo, were all written by humble people in the 80's and 90's, most people have never heard of.

They were the best, because they were written by, people trying to tell great stories, not by people who wanted to be great writers.
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It's a interesting take. Yeah, the fear to be judged and don't be able to live up to the high standards set by yourself... could be another factor.


Intwidumalah said:
He also said he was trying to write, non obviously bad or good characters. But all his characters are easy to define as good or evil.
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That's true to a certain point, however a character as Jamie Lannister is anything but black / white
 
Killer Angel said:
That's true to a certain point, however a character as Jamie Lannister is anything but black / white
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Agree. Especially the Lannisters are in between for me. But so are Varys, Daenerys, the Starks, the guys and gals from the south, even some of the Greyjoys and Littlefinger.
None of them are totally good or evil. At least not in the books. In the show it is more clear for some of them.
 
Intwidumalah said:
I answer @Killer Angel here.

I have these odd rules I have to follow.

One is to not respond to people in the book thread.

Another is, only to write, and not to get side tracked or hung up on editing, or formatting or stuff like that too much.

I could spend 1 year writing 2 paragraphs and they would still probably be all full of errors.

Also I have started to use Text edit on mac, and it doesn't work as well as my note pad.

I want a plain text, as I purposefully misspell words sometimes. And the auto correct is PITA, tho sometimes it is helpful.

Actually I will see if I can write a plain text file, as that should help with formatting.


Another rule, is not to talk about writing, or I burn up all my creative energy!
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OK, good to know.
If you want, i can delete my question in the "Gurls & Gunz" thread, so it will remain fully dedicated to your story.
 
Intwidumalah said:
And the reason is, everything is a trap.

analysing what you do, will fill you with self doubt.

Other peoples opinions, will deform your style.

Chasing validation, takes over because, it's easy and feels good, and the creative process is hard.

We can try to do something, or we can be someone that talks about that something instead.
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Fair enough.

I actually feel similar to what you are saying. I like to get feedback on what I have written mainly to find out if the idea that I had in my mind is what comes across to other people in the writing.

I never make changes based on single viewpoints. I try to get as many viewpoints as possible and see if overall my communication got across or not. If not, then I will look myself to see what needs to be changed.

I appreciate you reading the story anyways! :)
 
Other Youtube channels that talk about the craft of writing might be more entertainingly presented, I think Literature Devil is the smartest one.

 
Does anyone here know the difference between head hopping and third person omnipresent?
 
Paradoxical Pacifism said:
Does anyone here know the difference between head hopping and third person omnipresent?
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Third person omniscient means an all knowing narrator tells the story from a God's eye view occasionally entering the consciousness of one or more characters.

I never heard of head hopping until you mentioned, so I looked it up online.

"Head hopping" refers to the practice of changing from the point of view of one character to another character, in the middle of a scene.


Effectively this is a special type of third person omniscient and/or first person limited.

There seems to be a debate online on head hopping. The debate is whether a writer should never use head hopping or whether a writer should rarely use head hopping.

Generally speaking, head hopping is viewed as a sloppy or hack writing technique. Now, I don't believe that rules are meant to be broken in literature but I do believe a skilled writer can do great things by subverting writing rules carefully.

For instance, deus ex machina should generally be avoided, but in my opinion One Punch Man is a brilliant show/manga and the titular character is a walking breathing deus ex machina. But a writer shouldn't break writing convention just to be edgy, there needs to be an artistic vision and plan behind it.

I don't know how or when "head hopping" would be a good idea, but I'm sure a skilled writer could come up with a way to do it. So I'm in the camp that head hopping should be avoided.

I cannot recall a single instance of head hopping on L-O. That doesn't mean it never happened, just that if it occurred it wasn't memorable. After all, since I never heard of "head hopping" I wouldn't have known to look for it right?

I did kind of have head hopping before in some of my stories, BUT this was technically telepathic POV characters intruding on the minds of other people. This was not an omniscient narrator switching character minds.

Many writers on L-O, myself included have written many stories ranging from okay to excellent with shifting POV characters, but when the character POV switches, there is a clear scene transition.

Sometimes the scenes are very short, but the scenes are still distinct.
 
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