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AoS Second Edition

I think most armies without wizards have an auto unbind relic. Bcr have one as well. I was surprised we got one to be honest.
 
Killer Angel said:
it has been specified somewhere that you cannot take an artefact more than once,
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Where? I originally thought this but I’ve been investigating and I saw somewhere that there was something in the General’s Handbook that said you could use artefacts more than once, and there was a Grand Tournament winning army that used multiples of the same artefact.
 
Wazz said:
https://www.warhammer-community.com...-focus-kharadron-overlordsgw-homepage-post-3/

Here it is! It's down the page a bit, but you can use this and the plume to make Fyreslayers really annoying against magic.
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Thanks - that’s interesting, as my army will have to be from Chamon in order to use it, which could provide some interesting modelling and conversion options. I have certainly been thinking of taking Kharadron Skywardens as fast moving allies to lock down shooty units.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Where? I originally thought this but I’ve been investigating and I saw somewhere that there was something in the General’s Handbook that said you could use artefacts more than once, and there was a Grand Tournament winning army that used multiples of the same artefact.
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Up til now you are right, it was possible.
I saw the new rule in one of the leaks for the 2nd edition but i don't remember where, so i cannot tell.
 
I bought all the new books today.

Interesting stuff in there!
I also noticed something interesting about Endless Spells:
They can he dispelled by moving them over the side of the board.
That has some intriguing tactical consequences: For example casting them behind enemy lines might not be that effective as the enemy can remove them more easily. On the other hand it might mean that you can cast them, move them over enemy models to make damage, and instantly remove them again by letting them go over the side, then cast them again with another wizard...
 
The new core book is big and full of fluff. I will read through most of it in the next few days but the parts I read are pretty nice.

I think they explained the game a bit better than in previous books which makes the game great for beginners.

The realmscape rules are nice, with one or two new command abilities and one new spell, and six different terrain rules for each realm. Sounds like they finally expanded the realms, now it can really feel like you are playing in a certain realm, and especially for campaigns that is very cool as you can adjust to the battlefield to a certain degree.

I also like the underground battle rules btw. Some really nice ideas in there.

The matched play part in the core book is rather short, but that's OK because we have the GHB for that.
 
Aginor said:
I bought all the new books today.

Interesting stuff in there!
I also noticed something interesting about Endless Spells:
They can he dispelled by moving them over the side of the board.
That has some intriguing tactical consequences: For example casting them behind enemy lines might not be that effective as the enemy can remove them more easily. On the other hand it might mean that you can cast them, move them over enemy models to make damage, and instantly remove them again by letting them go over the side, then cast them again with another wizard...
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wouldn't that go aganst the rule of one?
It would be viable in a situation where you're defending and the enemy has to charge at you. He's going to run away from the thing regardless might as well immeadiatly dispell it so you can fire it again next turn.
 
Aginor said:
The new core book is big and full of fluff. I will read through most of it in the next few days but the parts I read are pretty nice.

I think they explained the game a bit better than in previous books which makes the game great for beginners.

The realmscape rules are nice, with one or two new command abilities and one new spell, and six different terrain rules for each realm. Sounds like they finally expanded the realms, now it can really feel like you are playing in a certain realm, and especially for campaigns that is very cool as you can adjust to the battlefield to a certain degree.

I also like the underground battle rules btw. Some really nice ideas in there.

The matched play part in the core book is rather short, but that's OK because we have the GHB for that.
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Also, could you tell how much rules are really in the core book? Im trying to figure out what I really need to buy and what can wait without losing much. The stuff is rather piling up and I still haven't quite figured out how to store everything proper so it's annoying to have to buy several shelves worth of stuff.
 
Canas said:
Also, could you tell how much rules are really in the core book? Im trying to figure out what I really need to buy and what can wait without losing much. The stuff is rather piling up and I still haven't quite figured out how to store everything proper so it's annoying to have to buy several shelves worth of stuff.
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I would say that in a pinch you can do without the core book for now.
You will miss on sieges, underground battles, and a few battleplans as well as the grand alliances allegiance abilities and the realm specific terrain rules.
The rest is basically fluff or stuff for the other game modes.
 
Aginor said:
I would say that in a pinch you can do without the core book for now.
You will miss on sieges, underground battles, and a few battleplans as well as the grand alliances allegiance abilities and the realm specific terrain rules.
The rest is basically fluff or stuff for the other game modes.
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mm, that's a shame, those do sound like actually interesting rules. Going to have to figure out what to do with this now.

Minor sidenote, why does GW insist on keeping all its rules so split.. in between the GHB, the corebook a battletome,whatever rules you get from forgeworld, the FAQ's & the errata you need a disturbing amount of books to have the rules for just one army...
 
Wazz said:
@Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl you could fudge the having to be from Chamon bit. My lodge is Lofnir, but that chain had Ur-gold in it so we received it as payment for helping fight back some pesky Tzeentch arcanites! Lol
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You could certainly say that your army has “been to Chamon, done that stuff to get this relic” and is now in another realm with this item in tow, I imagine it doesn’t really matter if you have a relic from another realm as long as you have a good lore excuse for having it. I was thinking of having my Fyreslayers be from Baeldrag Lodge as the colour scheme I’ve used for my first Vulkite unit is similar to Vostarg but I used a grass basing scheme which looks like Ghyran soil. I’ve also thought of a lore idea for them in that they hate both the Sylvaneth and the forces of Nurgle - the Sylvaneth because they are hideous mutated monsters that agitate the trees and make them aggressive, and the Maggotkin because they are loathsome scions of Chaos that pollute the realm with their diseases.
 
Canas said:
Minor sidenote, why does GW insist on keeping all its rules so split.. in between the GHB, the corebook a battletome,whatever rules you get from forgeworld, the FAQ's & the errata you need a disturbing amount of books to have the rules for just one army...
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Yeah, it's starting to be really annoying.
 
Killer Angel said:
Yeah, it's starting to be really annoying.
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worst thing is, not even that is a complete list seeing as the various fluff books like the quest for Ghal maraz also include some minor rules…
At this point a freaking wiki is easier to navigate and search what you looking for than trying to find the correct rule in the actual books.

Can't they at least release a 2nd edition of each tome with the errata and stuff corrected so we at least don't need consult several seperate pdf's to check if a rule still holds..
 
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