9th Age Discussion of OpenHammer (ETC) and Ninth Age (Swedish Comp)

I guess we'll have to wait and see what the Swedish comp guys come up with. I think @Scalenex was correct that the changes should be small and gradual in order to gain acceptance from the gaming community.

 

The only way I could have accepted a price increase on the Kroxigors would be if the chargers got to swing first regardless of ASL or initiative (like it was in 7th edition). The way it looks now is that they took an underpowered unit and made them worse. Leadership 6... no thanks... they're still leadership 7 under the 8th edition rules! I've never played ETC myself and after reading all this I don't plan to.

 

Hopefully Swedish comp are going to do the simple upgrade solution. I reckon we'll see something more like gradual upgrade, especially if they cool with suggestion. Of course we don't know if they actually are going to implant these suggestion. One can hope.

I really don't know what to expect from the Swedish comp guys, but with what I've got a vibe about, it'll be better then this.

I don't like the -1 Ld, to balance out any bonus cold-blooded gave; these ETC guys seems to think is a good idea....

 

I'm thinking the same thing. Fingers crossed.

 

It doesn't make sense to balance bonuses by changing stats, it should be the point cost that changed.

 

lol I was translating, then i noticed that you didn't need it anymore

 

Well did we get the basics with translate or was there more to it?

 

These changes seem very drastic, i think im staying with 9th age.

Here is the alpha incase anyone hasn't seen it yet, looking really good so far in my opinion!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdUboMHSwUrb4NHIqP4OihW7OL03V91gWrF79Ha0_2I/pub#h.fgyxcxtc2nq2

 

WHAT! There is only 1 magic armor and no banners, I do hope this is only temporary, since it is still in alpha.

And Lizardmen only got 1 change.

 

yeah they haven't added all the items yet.

 

One change, more points for a cowboy? hehe ... yeah because that's seems like the only think that needed to be balanced These guys have properly only played lizardmen very few times, or only faced them as opponents. My guess is the later

 

Well if anything in our book should be nerfed its cowboys. They are focusing more on BRB changes than actual armie changes right now i believe.

 

So it seems we need to send them our suggestions soon if we want to have a chance that some of it will be changed/implemented.

 

What we got so far seems pretty decent. It's not a too extensive alteration for from the last army book; probably better off with these minor adjustments, then what else could be cook up around the internet

 

Of course if the goal is to counter measure every decent model, in each army; these changes are fine. But I thought balance was about making each armies final options balanced, such that certain option for an army are "cheap" due to the lack of other options. We have some good hero close combatants, since we don't have much other stuff in the meta when it comes to close quarter combat. ... or am I missing the point. ..

 

• Essence of a Free Mind 100 pts

The wizard do not have to declare which lore he uses on the army list. He may choose any of the available lores before generating spells (normal restrictions for the wizard still applies).

This seems cool on a slann, costly though.
Alot of the lizardmen feedback talked about making monsters better (canons will probably get nerfed) and saurus getting back marks to make them more useful.

 

Sacred spawnings would be cool, but that seems like a huge step.
I actually like the approach scalenex has made in the fluff sections of our forum. It feels pretty fair, as a starting point

 

But that's how I like em

I don't think it's OP, because we have next to no warmachines and while we do have shooting it's rather short ranged, making us more of a (in my opinion) magic and combat army, which should mean that we get the combat and magic cheaper than other armies.