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The Ultimate Middle-Earth SBG Thread

NIGHTBRINGER said:
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There is no escape from the NIGHTBRINGER, he outposts us all.
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Now you're just flexing over a meme-trainee. Like having the blackbelt kung-fu master roundhouse kicking the seven year old new learner and bragging about it. :-P
 
I've been on the bad side of them for years. I have a knack for picking armies that were discontinued such as the Dogs of War, Bretons, Beastmen, Tomb Kings... Now three of those four are back and doing well. Amusingly I sold off the beastmen and Bretons years ago but my beloved Tomb Kings are going strong with me repainting them as they deserve a better job.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Maybe TOW Dogs of War in the future? :wideyed:
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Personally I'd rather not see them back as a mercenary army... only as specific Mercenary units to be added to existing armies in TOW armies' Mercenaries points allowance.

And certainly not the Gods-awful Renaissance Italian lore they had. That's one thing I'd love to see retconned and replaced with something decent. Like Rome... a fantasy Roman Empire or Republic (perhaps with Renaissance tech... a Rome that never entirely fell) would be much more the ticket for Tilea. Partly because it would be an actually coherent army rather than a jumble of mercenaries.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Personally I'd rather not see them back as a mercenary army
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What's wrong with them as an army?

Let's have @BrotherSutek 's army restored by Games Workshop!

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
And certainly not the Gods-awful Renaissance Italian lore they had. That's one thing I'd love to see retconned and replaced with something decent. Like Rome... a fantasy Roman Empire or Republic (perhaps with Renaissance tech... a Rome that never entirely fell) would be much more the ticket for Tilea. Partly because it would be an actually coherent army rather than a jumble of mercenaries.
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I'm not really familiar with their lore. Where they not a mixed bag of all kinds of different lores and styles?
 
- Q - said:
I'm not really familiar with their lore. Where they not a mixed bag of all kinds of different lores and styles?
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The Dogs of War was technically the closest that Tilea got to having an actual army, and Tilea's lore is... They aren't a unified nation; they are literally a nation of dozens of city states with no overarching government between them, and constantly hiring mercenaries to screw each other over. Basically, think of the Empire's worst traits (I and several others liken the Empire to a herd of cats that the elected Emperor then has to wrangle, usually getting scratched by the mangey cats in the process), and then ramp it up to the Nth degree.

A fair few of the Dogs of War units are based on particular city-states, some are just eccentric mercenaries. So... we get all sorts of funky renaissance Italy themed mercenary units. Like the birdmen.
 
- Q - said:
What's wrong with them as an army?
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I just think they're an army that is goofy in all the wrong ways, and as a whole dull... a ragtag band of mercenaries led by extremely bland 'I stab-a you in-a da back' Borgia-rip-off characters, meant to be the 'official' army for a soulless copy of Renaissance Italy (a setting in itself I'm really not interested in) that beggars belief as to how it has survived for so long as a bickering, infighting mess amidst the grimdark world of Warhammer. No thanks...

I'd probably be able to tolerate them more if they were not meant to be the closest thing to a Tilean army and were just a list of mercenary regiments that any army could take as part of its Mercenaries allowance, without the Italian flavour... but not as they are.

- Q - said:
Let's have @BrotherSutek 's army restored by Games Workshop!
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While I appreciate the decency of the gesture of bringing the army back to those who want it restored (especially being a fan of Chaos Dwarfs and Fimir, two other factions that have long fallen out of GW's favour and deserve to return), I still personally think it would be a better service to the Warhammer canon to rework the faction to be a list of Mercenary units (as fans of specific units would still be able to enjoy using them without the army being such a lame attempt at a full-on faction) and release a more interesting army idea for Tilea itself. As it is, if the concept was brought back exactly as it was I certainly wouldn't be interested in collecting it or endorsing it.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I just think they're an army that is goofy in all the wrong ways, and as a whole dull... a ragtag band of mercenaries led by extremely bland 'I stab-a you in-a da back' Borgia-rip-off characters, meant to be the 'official' army for a soulless copy of Renaissance Italy (a setting in itself I'm really not interested in) that beggars belief as to how it has survived for so long as a bickering, infighting mess amidst the grimdark world of Warhammer. No thanks...
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I don't really know enough about them to add to the discussion one way or another. But from what I've seen, several people on the forum really seem to love the Dogs of War army. Maybe a modern update that is less goofy would be more to your liking? And a move away from Renaissance Italy.

I do like the idea of fielding an army that has access to a huge range of wildly different units. Dwarf pirates! Halflings! Undead! But like I said, I'm not particularly well versed on the subject.

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
While I appreciate the decency of the gesture of bringing the army back to those who want it restored (especially being a fan of Chaos Dwarfs and Fimir, two other factions that have long fallen out of GW's favour and deserve to return), I still personally think it would be a better service to the Warhammer canon to rework the faction to be a list of Mercenary units (as fans of specific units would still be able to enjoy using them without the army being such a lame attempt at a full-on faction) and release a more interesting army idea for Tilea itself.
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That could work too!

Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
While I appreciate the decency of the gesture of bringing the army back to those who want it restored (especially being a fan of Chaos Dwarfs
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Didn't the Chaos Dwarfs get updated? They may not be official for Age of Sigmar, but aren't they in the same standing in TOW as the Lizardmen, Vampire Counts, Ogre Kingdoms, etc?

J.Logan said:
some are just eccentric mercenaries
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I think that's the concept I find most appealing.
 
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